Yes, repeating something true to intentionally deceive is a lie. The case of the (missing) gender pay gap

Saying something with an intent to deceive is hard not to call a lie.  Now perhaps we can forgive politicians (or the rest of us) who pick up too quickly an idea that we hear about without fully understanding its validity.  But if challenged on it, we should be willing to adjust our perspective when confronted with our error, if there is no doubt of the error.  But that’s not the approach of the progressive left.  Hillary Clinton and Bernie Sanders, as well as the broader feminist movement, have pushed a story that because of sexism, females are paid only 77 cents on the dollar for what a male makes.  As Christina Hoff Summers says,

No matter how many times this wage gap claim is decisively refuted by economists, it always comes back. The bottom line: the 23-cent gender pay gap is simply the difference between the average earnings of all men and women working full-time. It does not account for differences in occupations, positions, education, job tenure or hours worked per week. When such relevant factors are considered, the wage gap narrows to the point of vanishing.

The best economic studies continue to show that while there are some wage discrepancies,  these numbers are small and decreasing.  That reality makes the case for government action small, yet beating the drum that those opposed to you have a war on women has been a progressive staple for years.  Further, as I have argued before, if there really were such a wage gap, there is a continuing profit opportunity that is not exploited.  We’re supposed to believe that employers refuse to hire a woman, but will pay a man 23% more pay for the same work.  Where is the employer that would take this reality and simply hire all women?  He or she could simply increase the pay by 10% and still have a sizable labor cost advantage over their sexist competitors.  The fact that we don’t see this speaks volumes.

So today’s focus is from the WSJ (gated) on the CEO of SAP NA, Jennifer Morgan, who went after the gender pay gap in her company:

Barely a year into her tenure as president of SAP SE’s North America division, Jennifer Morgan embarked on an initiative many companies remain skittish about taking on: erasing the pay gap between male and female employees.  But in the war for top talent, particularly in the tech industry, Ms. Morgan says doing nothing wasn’t an option. In late 2015, SAP hired the law firm Littler Mendelson PC to examine pay for its U.S. employees.  The company took into account factors such as years of experience, past performance reviews and employees’ locations. In cases where pay disparities among similar employees couldn’t be explained by those kinds of variables and fell outside a certain range, pay adjustments were to be made.

What do you think the results were?  Well, they certainly surprised Ms. Morgan.  Not 23%.  Not 5%.  1% was the difference.  And some of that difference was for males, not females.

One false assumption I had was that the inequity would be only around women. I had an unconscious bias, and this process really opened my eyes to that. What we found is that the inequalities existed, and 70% of it was for females—but 30% were with males. That was probably my biggest surprise. It was just eye opening because it’s a gender-equity issue, but many times it’s just an equality issue. I was also pleasantly surprised that the inequity was only within 1% of the employee population. But 1% is still 100% wrong.

Hard to disagree with her last comment and Bereans certainly applaud it.  But when you are down to the numbers that she was addressing, you’ve taken out the legs of the argument that women are systematically exploited over pay.  What’s the likelihood that the 77 (or 78) cents on the dollar myth won’t be coming back soon in an election near you?  What’s the likelihood that opponents of further legislation will be labeled haters of women?

 

61 thoughts on “Yes, repeating something true to intentionally deceive is a lie. The case of the (missing) gender pay gap”

  1. I have not done much research into this topic, but it seems quite clear that all the information is there to prove that the wage gap is minimal to the point that it isn’t even worth noting. This is a huge testament to the way that we make arguments as people, in that we withhold information that is harmful to our stance, and only reveal the information that helps us. The Christian in this world should evaluate and present a situation weighing all the foreseen and known research on both sides, and create their stance based off of a well rounded knowledge base. On that note though, we must be sticklers of information to make sure it is not tainted, skewed, or blatantly false.

  2. A few years ago I looked into the gender pay gap because a female teacher of mine complained that a fellow male teacher made more than she made. She did not take into account the difference in the number of classes he taught, the sports team he coached, his higher level degree, and the leadership roles he held in the school. Things like this make a difference in a salary – he made more than her because he worked more than her. It is ignorant to not take into account said differences and assume because a man makes more than a woman it has to do with gender. I appreciate this post and more should be made like it. I like the quote, “Where is the employer that would take this reality and hire all women?” Surely, if employers paid women less, it would benefit them to hire more women. I am grateful you made this post and I will be sure to share it.

  3. Personally, I tend to view the wage gap issue as being real. I have first hand experience it, and I have witnessed it being openly practiced. It’s one of the reasons I left that local chain; the company is not well from within. However, I think that valid points can be made by both sides on this argument.

    I worked for three years in highschool (and first year of college as well) at a local grocery chain back home, and there was a VERY obvious wage/opportunity gap in many departments. Men were almost always given pay raises at quicker intervals than women. Men were given many more opportunities for promotions or to cross-train in different departments. Sure, all of us started out with the same hourly salary, but men (and I mean the vast majority of them) were given promotion and training opportunities at a far quicker rate than women, even when they were better qualified for training positions. The wage gap exists; maybe not to the extent that politicians would have us believe, but it exists – and there is a much greater difference than 1%

    However, it is also true that the wage gap issue is blown out of proportion. Many people (predominantly politicians) repeat something true with the intention to deceive. Education levels, length of employment with a company, difference in workloads; these are all things that are rarely taken into account when leftist politicians claim that women only make 77% of what men make.

    1. Andrew–
      I don’t know enough about the issue you raised to say whether that is correct or not, however there is nothing in my claim above that would deny that it is real, nor significant and should be eliminated. The central claim that economists make is that this is not systematic, and the market will tend to correct this. Your point makes my point:
      “It’s one of the reasons I left that local chain; the company is not well from within.”
      Competition tends to weed out the firms that would try to exploit certain workers. As you noted, its not just the exploited worker that will always walk; even those not on the target have an interest in being part of an ethical firm. Good on you for walking!

  4. There always seems to be something that can be blown out of proportion. In this example, you have shown the issue to be false through many reliable sources. You posed the question asking if the gender pay gap will be an issue in an upcoming election, my answer is that I wouldn’t be surprised if it did. Is that something that is completely unnecessary to worry about? It most likely is. Because of the stance companies and individuals take on the gender pay gap, I’m sure that some people will be labeled as haters of women, especially candidates in future legislation who do not take the popular side.

  5. I think there really are times when women are treated unfairly, but I don’t think it’s accurate to say that’s the norm. There are so many extremes that it’s hard to find a realistic discussion of this issue. Even the supporters of it aren’t very consistent; I remember seeing a CNN article saying that women in the Clinton Foundation made 72 cents for every dollar a man made.

  6. I remember listening to a talk show over the summer and this male teacher was complaining that he didn’t make as much as most of his female colleagues. However, he had only been teaching for 2 or 3 years and did not have a very high degree, whereas a lot of (but not all) his colleagues had been teaching for over a decade and had higher degrees than he did. I think this shows that while there is bound to be some pay gap, a lot of it is due to experience, education, and whole host of other factors. A lot of the time, this pay gap isn’t “unfair” but a result of better results or a better potential for better results. People are paid based on the quality of their work.

    People are given raises and promotions based on the quality of work (not in all cases). If a newer hire is doing a better job than you are, it should be no surprise when your employer rewards him with a promotion or a raise before you get one. This is not to say that there isn’t something to be said for loyalty, but people should not expect to get the same reward for loyal, mediocre work as someone who has not been with a company as long but does excellent work.

  7. It’s hard to add on to this post.

    The pay gap argument is commonly refuted on videos and constantly resurrected by subscribers. As Alfred Tennyson said, “A lie which is half a truth is ever the blackest of lies.” I think I can certainly attest that there is a pay gap between myself and Bernie Sanders. Unfortunately, this doesn’t get as much attention, likely because it’s not based on gender (in fact, it’s likely that people will complain that we earn more because we’re both white guys).
    I rejoice at platforms that refute the lie, and remorse at popular platforms that back it.

  8. In my opinion, this is one of many issues that seem to be vastly over stated or completely fabricated by Washington in order to avoid discussin the real issues. Politicians would much rather be the hero of women in the workplace than conquer the real problem of our ever increasing national debt. They would rather be the lawmen who stopped the flow of immigrants over the southern border than tackle the real issue of overstaying green cards. They would rather discuss providing free college than discuss working on fixing the existing public education system. The American people are left squabbling over minor issues instead of discussing some of the larger threats facing the nation.

  9. This article makes me think about how often the argument comes up among feminists that men make more than woman in every job. This doesn’t bring in to consideration that a lot more woman are house wives and only work part time. If a man and a woman both started working at the same time at the same job a man wouldn’t get paid 23% more than a woman. Often politicians rely on misleading information to swing over votes.

    1. I agree, a man is not going to get paid 23% more. When you look at the higher end jobs that can add up to an insane amount of money. And the fact that the statistics left out the major number of woman that do not work is just wrong.

      1. I agree Caleb, It also does not take in to account that majority of the wealthier people in this world are men. The twenty most wealthy people in America are all men and predominantly you see men running larger businesses. This skews the statistic too because with the majority of wealthy people being men in this country it brings woman average down as well. I am not saying that it is ideal because I believe that woman can do the same work as men but I just think that politicians skew facts in the favor of their own platform.

  10. This article reminds me of Ben Shapiro and Milo Yiannopoulos arguments about the Gender gap debate. Women tend to work less hours than men because they usually want to spend more time with their family. Also, men are more likely to ask for a raise. Educated women are more likely to choose a lower profession than men. Comparing a man and woman’s wage with the same profession and hours worked, their pay s the same.

    1. Not always. You need to rely upon data, not the opinions of extremely conservative commentators. Did you know that one of the two commentators you mentioned made comments defending sex crimes against 14 year olds? Is that the sign of an objective mind?

    2. Just so I can make sure I’m following you what you mean when you say “lower job”? I don’t want to misinterpret anything.

  11. I think part of the problem is that many people just take these ideas of gender wage gap and push for equality with wages but forget about one important factor: Capital. Skills, responsibilities and the other factors stated up above create the differences in wages. Its what creates the difference in wages between a CEO and a McDonald’s drive-thru employee. But so many people just accept statements for face value without actually studying the topic. Although, if every factor is the same except for gender and there are still discrepancies in wages then that does need to be worked out.

  12. The wage gap myth reminds me of the fella who believed with all certainty that he was, in fact, dead. Scores of people tried to tell him that he wasn’t dead, but the chap had no time for it; he believed he was really, truly dead. Finally, his wife brought in a psychiatrist to try to change the man’s mind. The psychiatrist worked for hours, trying every method and line of reasoning to get him to see his error, but the man wouldn’t budge. Finally, the exasperated psychiatrist ask the man point blank, “Look, do dead people bleed?” “Well, no,” replied the man, “I reckon they don’t.” With that, the psychiatrist pulled out his pocket knife and poked the man in the finger; logically, blood began to flow from the wound. “See!” beamed the psychiatrist, “What do you have to say about that?” With wide eyes, the man said, “Well I’ll be….dead men do bleed…”

    At this point, this is essentially the only question left on this issue. Individual cases may still pop up, but it’s far-fetched and just facially wrong to describe it as systematic. But, as you’ve said before, people love outrage. It makes them feel good.

  13. Pew Research has done a study,http://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2017/04/03/gender-pay-gap-facts/ and it includes Census Bureau information.

    Why you did not mention THIS thorough study and instead included an anecdote from ONE CEO who happens to be one of the very rare female CEOs at a major company, I will never know. It was sloppy research, at the least.

    You are right: repeating something true to intentionally deceive is a lie. The gender pay gap may be smaller than some politicians say it is, but it may be larger than some conservatives like you suggest it may be. In any case, there is strong evidence that there is still a gender pay gap, but that it is getting smaller, especially among younger workers.

    Btw, the number of female CEOs at Fortune 500 companies rapidly increased last year from 21 to 32. That is now 6 percent. We still have a long way to go, obviously (at least, it would be obvious to most)

    1. “Why you did not mention THIS thorough study”
      Mr. Adams, you act as if PEW research study refutes the premise of the article; it does not. In fact it confirms it. The Pew study does not adjust for the type of work/job/experience, etc. that the economic studies do. In their discussion of the differences, they highlight these same factors (e.g., career choices) as reasons why the pay gap persists in addition to possible sexism. I don’t disagree with you that we can do better, but I think the evidence is pretty clear, and “obvious to most” that there is no large systematic imbalance in pay rates between males and females.

      1. I see your point, now.

        I disagree with anyone who would “lie with statistics,” no matter what their political persuasion. That said, there is some evidence of gender discrimination, but less than there used to be, except when it comes to leadership positions.

        As I pointed out, only a handful of CEOs in Fortune 500 companies are women. Considering how small that group is, I find it hard to believe that this is merely a matter of bad luck. There are plenty of studies that affirm that discrimination still persists.

        Speaking of gender discrimination, how many female full professors does Cedarville have on its faculty now? Or are most of the women more likely to be found as “administrative assistants”? Where I work, a state university, my home department has not a male chair since 2003. Competent women, like competent men, hold positions of power. That is how is SHOULD be.

        How many faculty in YOUR area? It should be at least 50/50, considering that the MAJORITY of those who earn doctorates overall and in business administration are women. From what I have seen, at Cedarville the good ol’ (white) boy network still exists and indeed thrives.

  14. 1% still is not good enough and never will be. SAP hiring the law firm to run through all these numbers and different factors in the entire company is exactly the way to go. It is the only way to shows employees and employers that (1) the gap is not nearly as wide range as one thinks (2) The factors they used were “years of experience, past performance reviews, and employees’ locations.” These are data–raw facts, so you can not argue with the facts. As the article said, in some cases, it was the male receiving less pay. The point is that the progressive left will continue to push these senseless arguments, even in the workplace. I am 100% sure we can find multiple companies who have a wage gap with the female in favor. So, if the wage gap is even across the board will liberals and progressives let it go? Come on, then they won’t be doing their job. Regardless of their views, we saw the facts in this particular company. The wage gap is much, much less than we think it to be, because of our presuppositions from the progressive left.

    1. You are wrong. The data demonstrate the persistence of an existing, but shrinking, gender gap. You have chosen the low road of bashing the “progressive left,” attacking the messenger instead of the message.

      Go back above and look at the data from the Pew Research link (from 2017) that I provided.

      1. As Dr. Haymond stated, this article was in regards to the one scenario, and one company. The “progressive left” does a lot more attacking for menial topics and ideals than you think. In fact, the menial ideals and controversies are the exact reason why this is even an article. As for my presuppositions, your salary or wage at your employer is based on your performance, location, and experience, regardless of your sex. This is not a factor that employers review in regards to your salary.

  15. Personally, the wage gap seems nonexistent and not a pressing issue. There will always be something in the world to find an issue with and there will always be something that people will find flaw. Part of the issue is that many women feel that they are entitled to being treated in the same demeanor as men, and any small issue that could be perceived as a threat can cause people to go great lengths. Maybe there really is a 1% wage gap, but the 1% is not a life or death situation by any means.

  16. Women and men should obviously be payed the same if they are doing the same job. The argument of a business hiring all women can be countered easily because that is a complete hypothetical that no actual business would do to save money due to societal pressure. However, the statistics are a much more concrete argument and support equal pay, which is better for everyone in the end.

  17. This is an argument that has been going on for too long. It is frustrating to see the left continually trying to eliminate the wage gap that has been proven to not exist. After so many economists have denounced the wage gap, it is honestly surprising to see the millions of people that still want it destroyed. A 1% wage gap is not an issue that should be getting the amount of attention it gets.

  18. I think it’s also important to note that the statistics gathered by the left include the average wage of all demographics–including married and unmarried men and women. It was Thomas Sowell that noted the opposite effect on wages marriage had for men and women. Statistically, married men seem to make more than single men. For women, on the other hand, marriage typically correlated to lower wages. I won’t go into the economic explanation of how motherhood has lead to lower wages for women but I will say this: If the left would actually gather data from comparable pools (single men and single women) we might have more accurate statistics to discuss.

  19. For how small of an issue wage gap is today, it is overly discussed. If a male and a female have been doing the exact same job for the same amount of time, then they should make the same amount of money. The example used is proof that wage gap is less of an issue in that situation. Although 1% is not 0% it is still way better than what media and politicians portray. However, I also think that there should be more examples and larger samples to back up the data in this post, because one random story from a female CEO isn’t necessarily the best proof. It is important to look at all the facts for ourselves and not just what media wants the public to see.

  20. I thought this information was very valuable and shed logical and factual light on the real issue. These politicians from both sides, not just democrats, twist small parts of information to convince the public of something and the public just takes that information and runs with it. Instead of logically going through the argument of the politician and looking up background information, the public just accepts what these politicians say as fact. Even I have fallen into this trap.

  21. I’ve seen this argument go back and forth through the years in school, and I’ve always seen that the “wage gap” only applies to the entire workforce, and doesn’t apply when a male and female work the same job on the same circumstances. I think the best point here is that if the wage gap were true, why wouldn’t employers give jobs to women way more than men?

  22. The gender pay gap is something that I continually here about especially during an election. I always here the same statistic about how women only get 77 cents to the dollar with no proof to back it up. I have looked into this topic on my own and the conclusion given here is what I came to. When all the different factors are accounted for like position tenure, and occupations, the pay gap almost disappears. I really liked the example given at the end of a lady who tried to make a difference in the supposed pay gap and she was only able to make a one percent difference. I agreed with the article as a whole and with the points that it made.

  23. Wow, I really found this study amazing. I did not expect to see such a small wage gap. This study though was only done at one company, and I believe that if we reviewed more companies, we could see a wage gap that looks more like 5%. I do not believe that this gap is widening, but quickly lessening. Soon we will barely be able to see a wage gap at all, and hopefully the politicians will be able to stop bringing the idea up.

  24. It is crazy to think that the far left are complaining about a 1% difference. This literally has no effect. One thing discussed in Marriage and Family is that while it is true that there was a wage gap between men and women at one time, it is both not present today and it was not completely true. If you look back it wasn’t just women who got payed less, it was also unmarried men. The pay was barely any different, if not equal, between women and unmarried men. The reason married men got payed more was to support the family. Though this was the case long a go, the wage gap has decreased tremendously.

  25. I agree with most of what is written in this essay. Especially the point that mentions that if the gender pay gap was actually as big as the left claims that it is, then companies would only hire women and save large amounts of money on salary. I think politicians make this problem seem much bigger than it actually is because it secures a lot of votes. If people were to truly look at the gap, it is much smaller than many claim.

  26. Whenever I see arguments on the wage gap, I think of how many people make the generalization based on the assumption that the same number of women and men work those same jobs, working up to the higher wages. Although in certain situations I do thing there is an issue with sexism in terms of income, I believe that many people disregard the fact that more women then men stay at home and take care of the family for at least part of their lives, or work part time jobs. While it may be a real issue in some areas, I believe it is blown out of proportion in many cases.

  27. Seeing this information actually being researched in a real world example was beneficial. It’s important to actively do research on information before we make speculative claims or just follow along with what politicians claim to be true. This particular investigation was an excellent example of how not all claims being made are accurate. This reminds us that we must analyze data we find before we just agree with it. It was interesting to see that the gender pay gap was much less than what it was supposed to be.

  28. I certainly believe that the gender wage gap is something repeated over and over to further strengthen the feminist movement, and I also believe that it is entirely and completely false. My father ran a business for 25 years, and never once was his pay based on whether they were a male or female… always based on experience or something similar. This is one of many examples of the left using tactics that are deceiving to lure votes out of the female population. While women have had to fight for their rights in the past, I think that it’s pretty safe to say the wage gap has been taken care of – countless research and evidence shows it.

  29. I haven’t done much research on the topic, but it’s illegal to discriminate based on gender. Obviously this won’t necessarily stop people, but if there is still sexism in the workplace I’m sure we’re headed in the right direction. It bothers me when people blow sexism in America out of proportion, because we have it so good and we have come so far compared to women in other countries like the middle east. I’m thankful for all the rights and opportunities that I do have as a girl because we could be in another day where we had no rights. I’m absolutely 100% for equality but sometimes the extreme feminists make big deals out of things that really aren’t.

  30. You could not have explained it better. I totally agree that too many people try to make the wage gap sound much worse than what it actually is. I believe, if all else is equal and the data is actually valid, that men and women should be paid equal for the same work. The problem though is that people are making it out to be a greater issue when in reality, many times the males may have more education or experience in a given field and deserve more pay as a result.

  31. I had never believed in the whole 77 cents for a woman work to $1 of a mans, Now I can confidently not believe it! Being part of Turning Point USA I’ve had many conservitiave female colleagues tell me how the wage gap was not a real thing and I sorta just laughed it off. Now I see they are true and I love it.

    I also really appreciated what Ms. Morgan had to say with “I was also pleasantly surprised that the inequity was only within 1% of the employee population. But 1% is still 100% wrong.” This is a great attitude for christians to take. Senior Pastor Brian Tome said a very similar thing referring to the recent solar eclipse telling his story how a 99% solar eclipse was nothing like the 100% totality eclipse. Saying that there was a 100% difference between 99% eclipse and 100%, and then he related it to living a Godly life. If we live Godly lives 99% of the time yet not the last 1% we are 100% no living a Godly life.

  32. Although I still think that the gap in wage between genders is still an issue, this is great information to hear! The gender pay-gap is mentioned in many of the political conversations that I have with more liberal minded individuals and I will hopefully be given the chance to utilize this evidence in the near future. The main problem I have is that it is blown far out of proportion, which is exactly what Morgan and Littler Mendelson paired to prove. But I shouldn’t get too excited… rest assured that the myth will continue to prevail in future arguments from the liberal community and political stage.

  33. I think the wage gap is a bit of a red herring. The data for apples-to-apples comparison seems to indicate that there isn’t a noticeable gap. I think the real issue is not promoting qualified women to higher positions. I don’t have data backing that up so it’s an unconfirmed hypothesis on my end.

    Bit of a side rant but one big issue I would love to see get addressed is encouraging more women toward IT and software development careers. It’s a field overwhelmingly dominated by men and I’m sure that increases the perceived (apples-to-oranges) gender gap.

  34. I found this post really uplifting. I never did a study of the gender gap before, and I always just assumed what everyone else said about it to be true. Well not everyone, I didn’t really believe the crazy high numbers, but I still thought that it was a serious issue. I was quite surprised with the conclusion from the study and I hope that this gender pay gap is as absent an issue for the majority of companies in this country. However I still think the matter should still be discussed as I do not think the issue is in an acceptable state quite yet. Hoping we get there soon.

  35. While I have heard many complaints about the wage gap, as well as claims that it is a myth, I never took the initiative to look into it myself. I always leaned toward the idea that the wage gap was a myth, but I was still surprised by Morgan’s findings. Even though I did not think that the disparity was extreme, I thought that it would turn out to be greater than 1%. This article reminded me of another article that I read recently where public service leaders in Australia had begun to use blind recruitment (not knowing applicants’ gender or ethnicity) in an attempt to introduce more diversity, especially women, into their ranks. The practice was called off, however, as not knowing the applicant’s gender actually caused fewer women to be hired into public service than before. I thought that this was an interesting situation and wondered whether the same results would be had in the United States.

  36. I think it is a very good point to be making that many politicians, on both left and right, are far too quick to spread, and honestly fully believe, facts that they have no idea if they are true. In some situations even when they find out that what they have been holding to is wrong, they continue to hold to their lie for their images’ sake or to further their cause.

  37. I really like this article. It systematically challenges something that we are lied to about on a regular basis. I also appreciated the economic point about how if there was such a gap the smart companies would simply hire women.

    One thing that isn’t addressed here but is the actual issue in my mind is the respect factor. While women are regularly paid fairly, they have to work much harder to gain the same respect. There is the famous story of email signature switching and the effect it had on the feedback the two persons got, based strictly on their gender. This is the relevant issue in my mind, not the pay gap.

  38. Politicians really like their buzzwords. I think politicians probably know what they are saying is wrong and use an argument like the ends justify the means to rationalize their actions. I do not think this is ethical and politicians who use their influence to fracture groups of people in order to get more vote are detestable.

  39. The debate about wage equality always seems to be a hot-button issue. Unfortunately, it seem as though women are treated like the victim of this “gender pay inequality” without people understanding the facts. As this article stated, if all other factors are made equal, then there really isn’t a wage gap. Differences in position, responsibility, and number of people in the workforce can all account for the seeming gender inequalities. Many times the priorities that women place for themselves, such as taking care of family, will create the difference between the male and female workplace dynamics.

  40. I think that this article sheds light on something that is commonly known, “Politicians use truth to aid in their lies .” It really was interesting to see the research done into this issue and while the gender pay gap may not be as big as it is often played out to be it should not be forgotten that historically, women have had to work much harder than men to get good jobs with good and fair pay.

  41. The pay gap discussion is something that is talked a lot about, however I don’t believe people really look into it. It’s easy to just go along with the culture instead of actually looking at the evidence that has been supplied. I haven’t done a lot of research on this topic so this article was interesting to read. Like most people in our culture I had just assumed that there was a pay gap because that is what I heard from others. After reading this article I now have a different perspective, and it’s a good lesson not to believe everything you hear on the news.

  42. It’s easy to just go along with the culture instead of actually looking at the evidence that has been supplied. I haven’t done a lot of research on this topic so this article was interesting to read. Like most people in our culture I had just assumed that there was a pay gap because that is what I heard from others. After reading this article I now have a different perspective, and it’s a good lesson not to believe everything you hear on the news.

  43. I find it interesting that after the many cases where women have been shorted with their wages, that this issue still arises. While I do believe there are still people who prefer women to not work, and that if they do they should get a lesser pay, I feel like that percentage of the population is constantly dwindling. The fact that there are many very well paid women, and women of great corporate power, it seems that the issue of the working woman’s pay would have disappeared. Then again, there are many people who take it to an extreme and unrealistic level, such as believing that there is no need for men, when in fact, that it is simply false.

  44. I cannot say much about this issue, as I am definitely not substantially informed on it, but I have seen over and over again how the gender pay gap has been an exaggerated issue, when compared to the studies, that is often stated without knowledge of the real facts. It is so easy for people to hear something and repeat it without checking the veracity beforehand. Evidence like the research mentioned in this post is crucial in order to solve problems more efficiently. It is very likely that the 77 cents on the dollar myth and that opponents of further legislation will be labeled haters of women will continue to exist. This is why the “Berean” mindset–not to accept everything you hear without checking the facts–is indispensable to moving forward.

  45. The most prominent argument that stood out to me in the entire article was the fact that these companies would not be where they are today if they did not spend their money wisely. If the pay gap truly was that significant, it would be smart to hire a woman because the company would be paying a lot less, however this is not the way that it actually is as the article has stated. Really interesting take which I have not heard before this post.

  46. This has made me rethink alot. For starters, Bernie Sanders is a politician I greatly respect and enjoyed following throughout the presidential campaign. However, reading this article awoke me to the reality that I’ve allowed myself to slip into a mentality that takes everything he says to be ultimate truth and justice. Regardless of the motives behind a politicians words, moving forward I am determined to be educated and independant when it comes to understanding an issue myself and forming an opinion. In addition, further understanding just how flawed this arguement – which is seemingly just – truly is, has made me wonder just how many other things are misrepresented and equally poorly understood. I would be interested to see how politicians such as Bernie Sanders would themselves respond to this blog post, or at least the reasoning presented.

  47. It is easy to believe something without knowing the whole truth. However, it is important to be able to change perspectives when finding out more about the situation (explained in the first paragraph). Ms. Morgan believed many women were being underpaid in relation to the men at the company. She was forced to change her perspective due to the facts that she was searching for. She found that after all the credentials and years of loyalty to the company, there was only a 1% unexplained difference. With Ms. Morgan knowing the facts, she knew the gap needed to be fixed along with her perspective.

    In the world today, there are many controversial issues that are overlooked because it’s easier to ignore them than to explain them.

  48. I have many liberal friends and the gender pay gap has become a joke to them any time employment is discussed. I am glad to hear that someone in a position of power actually took the time to discover the truth about it instead of just going along with the party line. It will certainly be used by the left during the next election cycle; it will tie in well to their narrative about how misogynistic Trump is. Pay should be based on benefits an employee provides to the company, and a variance of only 1% is small enough to be fairly insignificant in light of other more pressing issues facing businesses today.

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  50. I find it very interesting how certain areas such as the wage gap can have such differing opinion with so many varying statistics. With that being said, it does surprise me that a politician as such would attempt to deceive for the purpose of pushing an agenda. I haven’t done much research on the validity of the wage gap myself, however I am now certainly curious to do so. I certainly do hope that it is as low as Jenifer Morgan says, however I hope that it is eventually all but nonexistence.

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